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Author: | RussellR [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:13 am ] |
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For you interest some pics of my Latest Walnut Euro Spruce OOO, I posted this one as the Walnut is pretty unusal and thought you might Like to see Detail Walnut Back and Sides Euro Spruce Top Cherry Neck Cocobolo Fingerboard Brazilian Bridge Holly Bindings 24.9" Scale. |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:01 am ] |
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Wow! that guitar is awesome, i really like that coco FB, IT'S GOT KLASS! ![]() Serge |
Author: | RussellR [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:21 am ] |
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Hi Serge It is a little drawing the customer wanted a sort of bent guitar with shadow and some soundwaves on one side, its just done in pearl and abalone and certainly not like the works of art we see from the inlay artists here and Johns Daughter. These are just some snaps I took, my resident photographer will be taking some proper shots tomorrow, so I will get a closer one of the inlay. |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:04 am ] |
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Cool Russ, lookin' forward to see it closer, BTW, looking at the nice rosette, i see that you made it out of a single piece of wood, is it walnut too ? |
Author: | RussellR [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:05 am ] |
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Yes it is a piece of walnut cut with a circle cutter, One of my wood suppliers saves all the off cuts for me ![]() |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:12 am ] |
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If i may Russ, how is cherry for carving, is it harder than mahogany, or what kind of wood could you compare it too, in the carving department ? |
Author: | RussellR [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:27 am ] |
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Serge it is about the same Hardness as Mahogany, you just have to watch the grain as it has a habit of tearing, that said it is not difficult to work with I really like Cherry. Now I'm just trying to remember what Colin said our Cherry is different to North American Cherry, I think he said you call ours Bird Cherry. |
Author: | Cocephus [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:56 am ] |
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Very nice, Russel! Ya know, this is kinda uncanny. My next OM build is walnut with a cherry neck! Now I have a really clear idea of just what I`ll come up with. I like that nice straight grain on yours. All my walnut has a curved and/or crazed look. BTW, the cherry you used for your neck doesn`t look too different from what I have here in the shop. Although it`s called cherry, it`s really alder. I wondered about that for quite awhile and finally found a piece that was actually stamped as alder. Is this the same situation you have over there? |
Author: | RussellR [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:16 am ] |
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Hi Co I just looked at a reference and Cherry and Alder here are two different trees, so I don't think it is the same here, I need ColinS for this one as he knows a lot about the different species of trees. What are you going to make the neck from for the one you are making at the moment ? I Really like cherry as a neck material, I have done several, and like it to work with, I am told that it doesn't stain well. |
Author: | RussellR [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:33 am ] |
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I just looked up the post and what I use is known as Bird Cherry here, so I got that back to front. |
Author: | sfbrown [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:40 am ] |
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[QUOTE=RussellR] I Really like cherry as a neck material, I have done several, and like it to work with, I am told that it doesn't stain well.[/QUOTE] True cherry can take stain very unevenly. You notice it in joined pieces such as found in furniture. One piece will take the stain beautifully and an adjoining piece (ie, a leg) will not take stain at all. It also sometimes leaves splotches within a piece but you can usually deal with that. Regards, Steve |
Author: | Cocephus [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:45 am ] |
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The OM I`m working now has a walnut neck. I pretty much wanted to stay with the same wood for my first few so I could make a few subtle changes here and there to get a basis for comparison (Hail, Mario!). On this first one is multipieced with grains opposing because I suspect walnut will move as it ages, and a stacked heel. I have it shaped up, but still need to get my headstock shape designed. I`m kinda concerned about this because of the possibility of infringing on someone else`s patent or design. Any suggestions? |
Author: | RussellR [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:10 pm ] |
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On peg head design, I would shy away from a Taylor or Gibson style, as both of these companies have been known to be pretty agresive with the protection of what they think is thiers, although I think Gibson lost out to PRS in a law suit so maybe they are not so keen now. In reality they probably wouldn,t be interested in someone making just a few guitars, and at worst they would probably only send a letter asking you to stop using their design. I like the design I have purely from the point of view of how it seperates the strings and that is how I arrived at it, but it is certainly not unique to me, Seaguls is Similiar and others I am sure. |
Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:42 pm ] |
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Nice Guitar Russell, I've yet to do the wood rosette thing. But I've been saving a bunch of orphan material for this very thing. Great job. |
Author: | old man [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:48 pm ] |
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Nice job, Russell. I like it. Ron ![]() |
Author: | Dave Anderson [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:57 pm ] |
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Very nice guitar Russell.I like walnut a lot and yours looks great! Love the straight grain of the back.Your neck and fretboard are excellant too. ![]() |
Author: | Shane Neifer [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:29 pm ] |
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Great Job Russel. I trust she sounds as nice as she looks! Thanks for sharing Shane |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:35 pm ] |
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Thanks a bit late for all the great information ![]() Way da go buddy! |
Author: | Mattia Valente [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:55 pm ] |
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Wow, that's gorgeous. And, uh, that Walnut kinda looks like a rosewood :-) |
Author: | Colin S [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:54 pm ] |
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Russell, my man, yet another great Avandel axe is produced, as usual a very clean job and subtle classy finish. Lovely walnut, and the good thing is I've got three sets of the same batch of his walnut sitting in my pile, nice to see what it will look like finished, and also a couple of the same cherry neck blanks. In fact it would be easier if I just sent them to you and let you build for me, I know it would sound good. Are we going to hear a recording? I'm a fan of the reverse taper on the head too, it makes a lot more sense to me. Yes, our cherry is Prunus avium, the bird cherry. Oh, and Russell I'd still call it an OM not a OOO. We are not worthy. Colin |
Author: | RussellR [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:01 am ] |
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Thanks All Colin I'm passing by Bristol, as I am going to see my Parents this weekend, so am delivering the guitar on Monday, I will drop into the AGW Studio, and get someone to record something for me. It is Deeper than my normal OM ![]() I've fallen in love with Waverleys (Which is just as well as I have a fair few sets ![]() I am finding I am getting a very positive response from my customers about them also. Credit to Mario for persuading me on the idea that they are worth the extra. Thanks for clarifying on the Cherry, our Alder is a different wood ? |
Author: | Dave White [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:23 am ] |
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Russell, I think Colin is right. It's more of an Oh My than an OOOooooooooohhhhhhhhhh ![]() Classy job as usual! |
Author: | John Kinnaird [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:11 am ] |
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That looks great Russell. Already sold I take it. I would like to see a close up of the bent guitar inlay. The only cherry I have worked with had little discernable grain and it was about as hard as hard maple. (Perhaps not quite as hard as that, but noticably harder than mahogany) I typically use prunus serotina aka black cherry. Anyway, great job. I agree with you about the reverse taper on the headstock. Makes the string pulls more parallel above the nut. John |
Author: | RussellR [ Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:52 am ] |
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Hi Mattia Andy who I get a lot of my wood from, has a few boards of it, but you are right its certainly not quite Walnut looking. |
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